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Ok, here's a silly newbie question..
I was asked by some fx house if I want to come help out on set this weekend and help put some prosthetics on zombies and paint them. I said I haven't done that before, but was told they'll show me what I need to do. Now, I tried to specificly ask what i need to bring, if make up brushes where enough, or if I needed paint brushes. All I got was "yes, bring brushes". Can you guys tell me what I would need?
I have make up brushes, but I'm guessing I need some others..but what kind? Would going to an art store and getting a brush set me good enough for this?
Thanks!
I was asked by some fx house if I want to come help out on set this weekend and help put some prosthetics on zombies and paint them. I said I haven't done that before, but was told they'll show me what I need to do. Now, I tried to specificly ask what i need to bring, if make up brushes where enough, or if I needed paint brushes. All I got was "yes, bring brushes". Can you guys tell me what I would need?
I have make up brushes, but I'm guessing I need some others..but what kind? Would going to an art store and getting a brush set me good enough for this?
Thanks!
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Re: Brushes..
Tue, June 14, 2005 - 11:24 AMgood brushes arent cheap.
for a quick fix and good range of what u'll need, go to the makeup store (frends beauty is the best) www.frendsbeautysupply.com
and buy a set of ve's favorite brushes. (www.favoritebrushes.com)
there is an FX set and a beauty set.
there are deals on them at the trade show, but if u need them now, there isnt much u can do.
thats the easiest thing, but not the cheapest.
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Tue, June 14, 2005 - 11:28 AMThanks Frank! I'll grab the fx set this week....I have friends who owe me some bday presents. -
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Re: Brushes..
Thu, June 16, 2005 - 5:30 AMI must have 150 brushes... maybe more.
I keep all sorts of brushes around
from the 7 cent chinese bristle brushes from the dollar store
that are marked "ARTIST SPEEIAL!" heh
(they shed when new! so work them a little first - great for
mold release, glue, and other non critical things)
to some very nice ben nye ones I own with just the right feel
for makeup work (but at a reasonable price)
my advice (and it's personal advice)
is to start with an "artists value assortment" from the local Pearl
- it will contain various kinds of bristles so you can get a feel
for what you need when, and it's /cheap/ for what you get.
and add some good small quality brushes for makeup detail.
a fine point, and angle cut, a "rounded tip flat" are a good
starting point
and a really big powder brush (for brushing setting powder)
if you are doing a lot of face painting some fairly stiff
large brushes are good, say 3/8 or so. Having lots of inexpensive
bruishes is my preferred MO... but you have to try and decide.
your brushes are your #1 tool, and it's a personal relationship
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Re: Brushes..
Thu, June 16, 2005 - 3:37 PM
Keep in mind that you'll be using these brushes with alcohol, isopropyl mysterate (sp), adhesives (don't know what type they'll use), acetone, and pigments, so in all likelihood if you are not familiar with these chemicals and their removal, your brushes will probably be trashed.
I would go with the less expensive synthetic brushes from the art store, take note of what kind of brushes the people at the fx house use, how they clean them, then later invest in some better ones (especially if you decide that fx is not for you). -
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Fri, June 17, 2005 - 12:00 AMi have had the same set of brushes for a few years, and except for shooting on location for 5 months, i never trash any of them
synthetic brushes will melt in acetone and other heavy solvents...i reccomend geting a few half way decent brushes to use. if you are planing on taking this serioulsy, just invest in some good ones.
i hate going to set and people have inadequate brushes, and i havta end up loaning mine out, or picking up their slack.
just cuz ve's set says FX, dosnt mean thats the only thing theyre used for.
and i own a hell of alot more than just ve's shit, even the brushes she uses arent JUST her line, right tool for the right job.
i get alot of brushes. from michaels or carter sextant also.
just so we dont lose the point of this thread, i was simply reccomending a quick no-brainer fix to needing profesional brushes. there is always the low-budget answer. and i think thats been covered in the past few posts.
as for cleaning, typicly, ill clean with 99% alcohol to strip out pigments, and then a brush cleaner (my favorite is parian spirit). once in a while they need extra strong cleaning, ill do that with acetone then alcohol then brush cleaner.
cinema secrets blue brush cleaner is really good too.
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Fri, June 17, 2005 - 8:24 AMThanks guys, you've been very helpfull. Making my pearl and frends stops today.
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Tue, June 21, 2005 - 5:20 PMI agree with Frank, The cheap brushes are great for some things but you can not achieve everything you need to with $ store brushes alone. there tends to be alot of fine lines and detial in F/x and a cheap synthetic brush is not going to give you a nice clean look. I usually have a set of cheap ones that I through out after the shoot and a nicer set for specialty stuff that I have been using for a number of years. -
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Sat, June 25, 2005 - 5:13 PMI did mention that I had some good brushes as well...
but really, if they are still selling the 20 piece artists' assortment at pearl, those are some pretty decent brushes including some really finepoints... you /could/ get going with just that set
I would add some fine makeup brushes tho.. but I'm rehashing myself.
for almost everything, cheap brishes are as good. sometimes better, because you don't have to worry so much.
those 7 cent-ers are great for lots of things, too... (down the street they sell those, get two big hands fuill of brushes for $2? hey why not.)
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Re: Brushes..
Thu, June 30, 2005 - 7:35 PMwell, for gluing, you want some foam wedges and a fine paint brush (not a good one) that you have bent to an angle for applying glue under the edges of the prosthetics. You'll want some rubber gloves for doing the "RMGP" foundations, though sometimes you just apply castor oil as the foundation. You'll want a super fine brush for doing mascara and a "dome tip" brush for eye work, some larger stiffer brushes for for applying color over larger areas. and a powder brugh, something large and soft enough to not smear makeup. Powder puffs for applying setting powder. a short heavy glass and some brush cleaner. some kleened or paper towels. makeup remover and after makeup lotion (something light with aloe is good) and of course adhesive and makeup of choice. (rmgp, foundation pallette, F/X colors, eye shadow / pearlescent pallette. eyebrow pencils and eyeliner, etc.)
of course they will provide most of this stuff I do hope.
but that's basically what you'll need for makeup work in general.
er, that's NOT WHAT YOU ASKED is it.. hrmmm okay the real answer -
the artists value brush set I have bought a couple of at pearl will do most of what you need, you'll want a couple fine makeup brushes as well, at least a "dome tip" and a slant tip for eye work, and lining. (but that's what I already said, in essence) and you can make do with the pearl set if you must. -
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Thu, June 30, 2005 - 7:39 PMgah! brain fart.
seriously I don't know why I answered that... other than I had tribe set to another threading mode somehow.
please to ignore.
*sigh*
(It's been a long long week getting these new costumes ready
my brain seems to be a little off)
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